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MediaDefender -- OOPS

this is so interesting.. when pirates fight against anti-pirate firms... although mediadefender seems like a will-sell-their-moms-to-make-a-buck type of a company.

Digg: search for "mediadefender"

have you been following the story? basically there's a company called MediaDefender that media companies hire to track and gather evidence and help fight against people who pirate using things like torrents, etc. well, they got hacked or something. in any case, e-mails and other info was leaked out to the net. some regarding their practices... they've even leaked source code to the tools they use...

meganova uses the information from the e-mails to find all the fake trackers, etc and ban them from their own site...
Tiny Security update, MediaDefender blocked and banned!

interesting also, is that companies like Interscope uses the P2P pirating info to figure out what songs to market next...
Record Labels Use Piracy Data to Please Fans

apparently, mediadefender got pissed and tried to ddos attack the mediadefender-defenders... guess they don't follow lawful business practices.
Media Defender emails

Pirate Bay is filing criminal charges in sweden against these companies.....

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TPB files charges against media companies

Thanks to the email-leakage from MediaDefender-Defenders we now have proof of the things we've been suspecting for a long time; the big record and movie labels are paying professional hackers, saboteurs and ddosers to destroy our trackers.

While browsing through the email we identified the companies that are also active in Sweden and we have tonight reported these incidents to the police. The charges are infrastructural sabotage, denial of service attacks, hacking and spamming, all of these on a commercial level.

The companies that are being reported are the following:

* Twentieth Century Fox, Sweden AB
* Emi Music Sweden AB
* Universal Music Group Sweden AB
* Universal Pictures Nordic AB
* Paramount Home Entertainment (Sweden) AB
* Atari Nordic AB
* Activision Nordic Filial Till Activision (Uk) Ltd
* Ubisoft Sweden AB
* Sony Bmg Music Entertainment (Sweden) AB
* Sony Pictures Home Entertainment Nordic AB

Charlie
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:43:41 +0000

wow...this is huge. It's like back in the old wars. The KGB had a high ranking mole at Langley.

soon, the CIA's spy network in various countries started going with agents disappearing or executed.

what's a tracker?

Paul
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:57:04 +0000

i assume you know what torrents are. basically p2p application to download movies, apps, and generally large files from mulitple sources at once directly from their home or whatever pc they use. sharing. places like the pirate bay, meganova, etc, are sites listing trackers. trackers are just locaters basically. i might have part of a movie on my pc, david might have part, chieh has another part.. and you want to download it on all 3 at the same time. well you'd have to know that we all have the same movie and know how to get to us, so you need a tracker to connect to that tracks all of this. you use your torrent client and tell it the tracker address and your client uses all of that information to download what you want from all the information it has about who has what.

What Is a Bit Torrent Tracker?

Charlie
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:10:09 +0000

Okay. I see. So, this company that works for the media companies got hacked. I see.

So, what does that matter? it's digital warfare. I'm surprised anyone's surprised, no?

Paul
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:43:28 +0000

well... they are fighting against piraters but in doing so they are doing every dirty trick in the book.. including illegal activities themselves...

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

they have been allowed to run amuck. now all of their research, IP, tactics, tools, etc. have been exposed and is used to defeat them and others like them. it's like building a hack-proof, thief-proof vault and sending out assassins to "would-be" thieves to their homes to kill them although they aren't doing anything but sitting at their homes and then have all of their plans, information, and vault schematics and secret codes leaked out to every thief in the world.

on top of this.. this company that was supposedly fighting p2p piracy, mostly for movies, some music... they were trying to and planning on launching their own movie streaming site, "miivi". and they were using the p2p networks to put in bogus crap and stuff to drive traffic to their site. that's pretty deceptive business practices if you ask me.

Charlie
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:31:46 +0000

well, that's just business.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Go, Hackers!

It's pretty incredible. Both sides are bad. Let them fight it out. I'm guessing you guys are more on the side of the hackers? well, I'm a bit on their side too but still, I wonder how much of these hackers are making and how much of that is being used for other criminal enterprises.

i think there are hackers out there who are doing this for the thrill of it too.

Paul
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:40:53 +0000

oh i'm sure the hackers are making a good chunk. sure... .but not everyone shares our copyright and other laws... and personally i'm tired of the United States forcing their will on to the rest of the international population to whatever their whim is...

ya i get the business part. i mean it can be pretty cut-throat. and these people are obviously not upstanding corporate citizens. but business doesn't give them the right to outright perform illegal activities. most especially when their business is to stop illegal activities... fight fire with fire?

did you hear, now the 'united states" is accusing iran of trying to help iraq with weapons"?? looks like we're ready to pick a new fight.

Charlie
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:00:42 +0000

well, I think at the government level, there are a lot of dirty things we are not aware of.
And I don't disagree that we attempt some things that are less than honorable.

but I sort of lump this in with industrial espionage. what come next is what to see if the government does anything about it.

we prosecute hackers. we should also prosecute agents of corporations who do illegal deeds.
but yes, fighting fire with fire. I am just curious why these sites have not been taken down to begin with.

by the way, what dirty tactics are is this mediadefender doing?

Paul
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:32:14 +0000

Web Sheriff doing it different than MediaDefender

Paul
Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:36:55 +0000

by the way, what dirty tactics are is this mediadefender doing?

Denial-of-Service attacks. That's not very ethical. Or submitting false trackers. These action all violates the term of service of the sites they attack. And is exactly what the RIAA is claiming their illegal users are violating.

Chieh Cheng
Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:07:35 +0000

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